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Topic: Vista the offical pronouncement? (Read 10069 times)
zizdodrian
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #30 on:
February 02, 2007, 01:07:51 AM »
Quote from: µ on February 01, 2007, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: canon_fodder on February 01, 2007, 08:30:19 PM
WTF! Windows is bloody stupid!
This is news? ... although they do seem to have risen to new heights with this one.
Quote from:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6320865.stm
... in order for the flaw to be exploited the speech recognition feature would need to be activated and configured and both microphone and speakers would have to be switched on.
Gee golly gosh, how often could THAT happen?
Never mind a malicious audio file, what about a malicious little sibling who has a temper tantrum and screams "I wish I could
delete all
your
files!!!
"
Granted, it would be a huge help to people with limited hand mobility, but the risks don't seem to have been properly addressed.
You know, with the recognition accuracy rates I've seen from their speech recognition, I'd say that 'scripting'/voicing a virus for their system which would actually work as intended would be pretty difficult.
Does anybody remember 'Dear aunt lets so double the killer delete select all'?
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µ
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #31 on:
February 02, 2007, 09:05:52 AM »
Quote from: zizdodrian
You know, with the recognition accuracy rates I've seen from their speech recognition, I'd say that 'scripting'/voicing a virus for their system which would actually work as intended would be pretty difficult.
Does anybody remember 'Dear aunt lets so double the killer delete select all'?
Oh man, I'd completely forgotten that until I
googled it
. What an excellent way to start off my Friday
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zizdodrian
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Posts: 2836
Invincibility is absolute. Security is relative.
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #32 on:
February 02, 2007, 04:55:47 PM »
I love how embarrassed and worried the guy gets when it doesn't work.
He knew in advance Microsoft would try to pin it on him, instead of accept their product was crap. And he was sweating.
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Cheers,
Christopher
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Knightslugger
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #33 on:
February 02, 2007, 05:01:57 PM »
Quote from: zizdodrian on February 02, 2007, 04:55:47 PM
I love how embarrassed and worried the guy gets when it doesn't work.
He knew in advance Microsoft would try to pin it on him, instead of accept their product was crap. And he was sweating.
Well, if all you had were pretty words to describe your products technical interworkings, wouldn't YOU sweat?
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canon_fodder
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #34 on:
February 02, 2007, 07:37:03 PM »
Quote from: µ on February 02, 2007, 09:05:52 AM
Oh man, I'd completely forgotten that until I
googled it
. What an excellent way to start off my Friday
Or in my case Saturday morning work!
Cheers for the link!
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Hanii Puppy
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #35 on:
February 02, 2007, 07:58:27 PM »
Quote from: canon_fodder on February 02, 2007, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: µ on February 02, 2007, 09:05:52 AM
Oh man, I'd completely forgotten that until I
googled it
. What an excellent way to start off my Friday
Or in my case Saturday morning work!
Cheers for the link!
I put it on my iPod =p
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zizdodrian
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Posts: 2836
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #36 on:
February 03, 2007, 12:49:18 AM »
I don't know about you, but I feel a lot better after the release of Vista.
The hype was pretty intense, but it boiled down to pretty little in the way of real updates.
Edit:
And the security? We've allready had 14 viruses/exploits specific to Vista. Here's the latest:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2076062,00.asp
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Last Edit: February 03, 2007, 04:08:25 AM by zizdodrian
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Shmi
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #37 on:
February 06, 2007, 01:18:52 AM »
Quote from: Shmi on February 01, 2007, 01:21:02 AM
Quote from: zizdodrian on January 31, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
It just wants confirmation for
everything
, as though an attacker would want to cause harm to you by changing your desktop background. (although I'm sure there are ways, it isn't a terribly critical one.)
Besides the annoyance, it doesn't even ask you for a password! What use is it?
Yeah, so if you want to, say, select 15 files from your desktop and delete them all, it brings up a separate confirmation dialog for
each and every file
, with no "Apply to All" option, one dialog at a time. It's so goddamn annoying and useless.
Speaking of which, Apple makes fun of this annoyance in their latest ad!
link
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Knightslugger
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Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #38 on:
February 06, 2007, 09:20:47 AM »
Quote from: Shmi on February 06, 2007, 01:18:52 AM
Quote from: Shmi on February 01, 2007, 01:21:02 AM
Quote from: zizdodrian on January 31, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
It just wants confirmation for
everything
, as though an attacker would want to cause harm to you by changing your desktop background. (although I'm sure there are ways, it isn't a terribly critical one.)
Besides the annoyance, it doesn't even ask you for a password! What use is it?
Yeah, so if you want to, say, select 15 files from your desktop and delete them all, it brings up a separate confirmation dialog for
each and every file
, with no "Apply to All" option, one dialog at a time. It's so goddamn annoying and useless.
Speaking of which, Apple makes fun of this annoyance in their latest ad!
link
that's my fav. one so far! and i'm not even that big a fan of them...!
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zizdodrian
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Posts: 2836
Invincibility is absolute. Security is relative.
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #39 on:
February 06, 2007, 04:10:25 PM »
I think it works because it is obviously true.
Sadly, that agent doesn't appear to be doing a very good job:
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6156733.html
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Cheers,
Christopher
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Liquidmark
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Posts: 1923
I nominate MYSELF as the new leader!
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #40 on:
February 06, 2007, 05:08:57 PM »
Quote from: zizdodrian on February 03, 2007, 12:49:18 AM
I don't know about you, but I feel a lot better after the release of Vista.
The hype was pretty intense, but it boiled down to pretty little in the way of real updates.
Edit:
And the security? We've allready had 14 viruses/exploits specific to Vista. Here's the latest:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2076062,00.asp
LOLZ!
Wow, And Ol' Billy was talking smack about OSX vulnerabilities? Dang, Vista Retail hasn't been out for a week and it's already getting smacked.
Quote from: Shmi on February 06, 2007, 01:18:52 AM
Quote from: Shmi on February 01, 2007, 01:21:02 AM
Quote from: zizdodrian on January 31, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
It just wants confirmation for
everything
, as though an attacker would want to cause harm to you by changing your desktop background. (although I'm sure there are ways, it isn't a terribly critical one.)
Besides the annoyance, it doesn't even ask you for a password! What use is it?
Yeah, so if you want to, say, select 15 files from your desktop and delete them all, it brings up a separate confirmation dialog for
each and every file
, with no "Apply to All" option, one dialog at a time. It's so goddamn annoying and useless.
Speaking of which, Apple makes fun of this annoyance in their latest ad!
link
Best-One-Ever!
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Bill Gates says:
Wir müssen alle Computerindividualität zerquetschen! Mit WINDOWS VISTA, ist das göttliche Reinigen zur Hand. Zuerst Ihre Computer, dann die Welt!!
Are you gonna let him get away with that?
-Parody- No, Bill gates didn't really say that
zizdodrian
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Posts: 2836
Invincibility is absolute. Security is relative.
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #41 on:
February 07, 2007, 02:08:52 AM »
Quote from: Liquidmark on February 06, 2007, 05:08:57 PM
Quote from: zizdodrian on February 03, 2007, 12:49:18 AM
I don't know about you, but I feel a lot better after the release of Vista.
The hype was pretty intense, but it boiled down to pretty little in the way of real updates.
Edit:
And the security? We've allready had 14 viruses/exploits specific to Vista. Here's the latest:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2076062,00.asp
LOLZ!
Wow, And Ol' Billy was talking smack about OSX vulnerabilities? Dang, Vista Retail hasn't been out for a week and it's already getting smacked.
I think the current count of viruses
specific
to vista is about 10 - 15, but because many of the news articles are about viruses people
say
they have, but won't show anyone, there are probably more.
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I love this, too:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/threatchaos/?p=311
System calls in Linux are structured, organised procedures. System calls in Windows just look like a mass of spaghetti.
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Christopher
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Liquidmark
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Posts: 1923
I nominate MYSELF as the new leader!
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #42 on:
February 07, 2007, 02:31:11 AM »
Yeah, M$ needs to cut the fat.
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Bill Gates says:
Wir müssen alle Computerindividualität zerquetschen! Mit WINDOWS VISTA, ist das göttliche Reinigen zur Hand. Zuerst Ihre Computer, dann die Welt!!
Are you gonna let him get away with that?
-Parody- No, Bill gates didn't really say that
zizdodrian
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Posts: 2836
Invincibility is absolute. Security is relative.
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #43 on:
February 07, 2007, 04:24:04 AM »
Quote from: Liquidmark on February 07, 2007, 02:31:11 AM
Yeah, M$ needs to cut the fat.
I think thats the main cause of all their instability and insecurity, too. One of these days they should go back to basics and recode the kernel from scratch - not an easy task, but easy enough if they don't try to be a jack of all trades like they did with Vista.
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Christopher
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victor_c26
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Posts: 196
Re: Vista the offical pronouncement?
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Reply #44 on:
February 10, 2007, 12:15:03 AM »
Quote from: Shmi on February 06, 2007, 01:18:52 AM
Quote from: Shmi on February 01, 2007, 01:21:02 AM
Quote from: zizdodrian on January 31, 2007, 11:27:49 PM
It just wants confirmation for
everything
, as though an attacker would want to cause harm to you by changing your desktop background. (although I'm sure there are ways, it isn't a terribly critical one.)
Besides the annoyance, it doesn't even ask you for a password! What use is it?
Yeah, so if you want to, say, select 15 files from your desktop and delete them all, it brings up a separate confirmation dialog for
each and every file
, with no "Apply to All" option, one dialog at a time. It's so goddamn annoying and useless.
Speaking of which, Apple makes fun of this annoyance in their latest ad!
link
That seemed to only affect RC1.
I've got Vista Business loaded on my machine, and the only times it asks me to confirm are when I install a program, try to open an unknown .exe file, change a system level preference, or uninstall a piece of software.
Moving files doesn't provoke UAC confirmation, nor does changing your wallpaper.
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