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« on: March 25, 2006, 11:47:18 AM »

Alright, I'm having troube here, I just got my new MacBook Pro, I have downloaded and installed OpenOffice 2.0. When I click on it to run it it doesn't do anything. I know it requires X11 to run. I went to the Apple site and downloaded it but when I went to install it it said there was a newer version on board already. I have looked in applications, nothing. I have searched for it with finder and there is nothin. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong. Or is there another office solution for the Mac?
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2006, 12:12:09 PM »

I don't know how it is with the new Intel Macs, but with my G4 iBook, I had the same issue.  The "problem" was that there's a version of X11 on the Tiger install disc (and maybe on the discs that came with your MacBook, I'm not sure.)  So when it says you have a newer version, I think it just means that there's a newer version on your disc which you can install.

On the Tiger disc, you just put it in (while your computer's running, don't restart), open "Additional Packages" or something like that, go through the installer, and check off X11 (under Applications), then let it install.

Again, I have no idea if this is the same way on Intel Macs, or if X11 is on the bundled discs (I bought Tiger seperately, and it's on there at least), but I hope that helps.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2006, 12:45:15 PM »

I don't know how it is with the new Intel Macs, but with my G4 iBook, I had the same issue.  The "problem" was that there's a version of X11 on the Tiger install disc (and maybe on the discs that came with your MacBook, I'm not sure.)  So when it says you have a newer version, I think it just means that there's a newer version on your disc which you can install.

On the Tiger disc, you just put it in (while your computer's running, don't restart), open "Additional Packages" or something like that, go through the installer, and check off X11 (under Applications), then let it install.

Again, I have no idea if this is the same way on Intel Macs, or if X11 is on the bundled discs (I bought Tiger seperately, and it's on there at least), but I hope that helps.

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2006, 01:15:38 PM »

X11 should be under Applications/Utilities/ folder. Should be the last item in the list if it's been preinstalled.

The X11 version on Apple's site is not the one you should try to use on Mac OS X 10.3-10.4.5 for one main reason. It's the version released specifically for Jaguar (10.2), and with 10.3 onwards, it's been included with the OS install disks.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2006, 02:07:21 PM »

With programs like OpenOffice and other X11 apps, how is the change to Intel going to affect them?  Are they planning on making them run natively on Intel Macs, or just keeping X11 around?

Edit: nevermind, I just saw on the OOo page that a major to-do item is make it run on OS X without X11.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 02:56:58 PM »

The processor change for macs DOES NOT effect the requirement of X11. Totally different, separate shit.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2006, 09:04:00 PM »

Alternately, you can download NeoOffice, which is pretty much a native OSX port of OpenOffice.

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2006, 09:51:59 AM »

Well I tried NeoOffice myself. I'd have to say that one shouldn't use it unless they absolutely need a free office suite that's semi-native to OS X.

NeoOffice is very slow to load at times and relatively heavy on the system to use. Reason? Mainly done in Java to make it compatible, and not a direct port over to OS X's architecture.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2006, 11:49:22 AM »

Well for now, I found I had a 30 day trial of MS Office 2004. I thought I had found and downloaded X11 (X11 SDK) but still no good for open office. I may try NeoOffice but it seems I'm waiting for the native version of OO.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2006, 12:23:35 PM »

X11 should be on your install disk. It's on mine.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2006, 01:04:49 PM »

What folder? All I found was the X11SDk thing and that didn't seem to work, unless something else is going on.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2006, 01:58:24 PM »

I don't know how it is with the new Intel Macs, but with my G4 iBook, I had the same issue.  The "problem" was that there's a version of X11 on the Tiger install disc (and maybe on the discs that came with your MacBook, I'm not sure.)  So when it says you have a newer version, I think it just means that there's a newer version on your disc which you can install.

On the Tiger disc, you just put it in (while your computer's running, don't restart), open "Additional Packages" or something like that, go through the installer, and check off X11 (under Applications), then let it install.

Again, I have no idea if this is the same way on Intel Macs, or if X11 is on the bundled discs (I bought Tiger seperately, and it's on there at least), but I hope that helps.

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