The Official Firefox Thread

[Nismorack]

1. Tabbed browsing

I don't even use a tabbed HTML editor. So I'm used to having 20+ windows open. Reason for this is so I can look at 2 pages at the same time. For comparison reasons and such.

2. Ability to do anything with extentions (I'm including this because it is a feature that you start with)

It first requires said extentions to be found and installed. And the more plugins you load into it the slower it will eventually get.

3. Is not OS integrated, therefor it will not wreak havoc on your system

This is just a matter of knowing how to surf the internet. And knowing where you surf. No problems here.

4. Customizable tool bar

IE has this too. As do most other Windows programs. Not everybody uses the function though. Since the most used functions are placed there by default.

5. Super stable

Compared to what? Over the time I've used either. Both IE and FF have probably crashed the same amount of time. And it was usually caused by some crapilly coded Flash or Jave aplet.

6. Full PNG support

Okay, I'll give you that one. Though one can easily make do without Alpha Transparency. Using the added code for IE results in Invalid xHTML/CSS2 check.

7. Support for every media player

I'd rather keep these two apart. I already dislike website that have music in the background. And I have these nifty quick keys on my keyboard to tell Winamp what to do.

8. Support for every Internet code language

IE has that too. The only 2 you need is xHTML and CSS. Everything else is third party applet.

9. Compatability

With what exactly? My espresso machine? Would be damn nifty though. Press a button and ready espresso. Hmmmm.....

All I want to do is surf the internet. Either FF or IE will do that for me. So I'll use whichever I have open at the moment. Since I have to check every site I build on compatibility for at least these two.

[Dark Prism]

Ok, then why are you even in here if you don't care? Argument for arguments sake? That never helps anyone. It just makes people mad.

[Politik_De_Force]

Ok, then why are you even in here if you don't care? Argument for arguments sake? That never helps anyone. It just makes people mad.

I'm sorry.  When I saw the thread named "THE OFFICIAL FIREFOX THREAD", I was under the impression that all Firefox related talk was accepted here.  Meaning, Nismorack has full right to talk about his dislikes of Firefox.  Personally I don't think that tabbed browsing is that great since Windows XP has the option to group related windows.  And since I'm not too lazy to move my mouse and extra 2.34 inches, then tabbed browsing does not impress me.  Then again, Mac OSX doesn't have much of a command bar do they?  So I see where Mac users love it.

Anyways, before you go and tell someone they shouldn't be here, make sure you remember the reason of the thread.

And Nismorack is the smartest man on earth due to his last post.

[Thunderstruck]

Firefox, Safari, Camino. In that order.

The expandability and flexibility of Firefox over ANY browser out here makes it number 1 on my Macs. The widgets are hellishly ugly but with a few tweaks they can look pretty good and I posted a screenshot of it a few weeks back. Iv've also made the tabs to look like Safari cuz I don't like what the original tabs look like.

Extensions: BBCode, Gmail notifier, Tab Clicking Options, Disable Targets for Downloads, Open Book, Sage, Super Drag and Go, TabSwitcher, Webmail Compose, Google Preview, Keyconfig. For, more extensions, go here.

Firefox can undo anything you do in a text box so if I accidentally deleted a whole block of text, I can get them back, which puts it ahead of Safari any day. Also the search bar lets me add search engines so I can do quick searches on imdb, dictionary, amazon, and a whole bunch of other sites without opening the site first. Some of you may not care about it but it's a time saver and convenience.

The only thing that stumps Firefox is Flash. A flash file as small as regular a banner ad will cripple it almost completely. You won't be able to close or switch windows or tabs, no scroll, etc. The flash animation either doesn't run or runs very slowly but it runs fine if you hold the mouse button down. And then you force quit it. Try opening this page in Mac Firefox 1.0 and see if it cripples it. It always does on mine.

This is why I keep Safari around cuz it handles flash much better. Somehow it's fine  on Mozilla as well which is confusing cuz FF and Mozilla are practically the same. maybe it does certain event handlings differently. I don't use Mozilla cuz it's full of things I don't want, like the mail client and composer.

I keep Camino around just to see how the mac mozilla project goes. Unfortunately while it's come leaps and bounds since 0.7, it's still not mature enough for a primary browser, getting plenty of performance hits simply by opening more than 10 tabs. I imagine not many people would use Camino cuz it's practically the same as Safari, except it uses the Mozilla backbone while Safari is on Konqueror. Although flash is just as bad as in Firefox.

[Politik_De_Force]

so if I accidentally deleted a whole block of text, I can get them back

Hint: Ctr + Z.  That command is embedded into almost any operating system thinkable.

[Thunderstruck]

change control to command and that is precisely what i meant. Safari doesn't recognize command+z on text boxes.

[Dark Prism]

I wish I could show you how nicley Firefox ran that flash site. It was beautiful. I think you've got a problem.

[Inigo]

I was about to post something about 15 minutes ago but when I clicked Submit FireFox...er..crashed.

I can't even remember what I was going to say, either. Arses.

[Thunderstruck]

I wish I could show you how nicley Firefox ran that flash site. It was beautiful. I think you've got a problem.

what's your hardware and os setup? I'm having the problem across three macs, iBook G3 500, iBook G4 800 and iMac G4 700, all run 10.3.6 with the latest Flash plug in as far as i can tell.

[Dark Prism]

It's a 600 MHz PowerPC G3, with 512MB RAM, with OS X 10.2.8.

It's a POC, but Firefox makes it purr.

[Inigo]

Noia 2.0 (eXtreme)

Get this theme or die.

[Dark Prism]

Get this...

Earlier today, everything is fine. Then after dinner I come down to do a little surfing, but when I try to start up firefox, the computer says it can't give me permission from the network keyserver to open it! It also did this with netscape. It really pissed me off.

Well, I downloaded Camino, and to my surprise, it's faster than a Ferrari. I'm impressed, although it's not nearly as cool as firefox.

[Dark Prism]

Well, yesterday it was still borked, but now it seems fine.

[Wraithe]

Commence Geek Nerdgasming Now, Curtesy of the New York Times:

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,39020369,39181362,00.htm

[grossjo]

this is the only reason to use firefox

http://www.squarefree.com/pornzilla/why-firefox.html