Ugh! Frames no longer work in new browsers?

[WebmunkeyPrime]

Seriously, if you pay close enough attention to your CSS, it's all you need for ANY layout.  Again, as mentioned previously, the only browser that DOESN'T work right is IE...  not because it's bloatware, but because Microsoft doesn't want to put out the energy to keep up with the standards.

I use DIV tags with inline style defining exactly where each one is on the page.  This has the added benefit of allowing you to describe EXACTLY how the page looks, rather than leaving it to the mercy of those with small monitors.  Also, it's guaranteed to work with all new browsers except IE...  IE seems to want to place things lower than defined.

Just a few <OBJECT> tags working properly, and you have a frames-free environment.

'Course, it IS easier to use PHP, but not every server supports it...

[Pharao]

yeah but free servers without popups and things like this are easy to find.
and if you pay 2$ per month you'll allthough have one...
I think there is no problem.

[Panda]

'Course, it IS easier to use PHP, but not every server supports it...

*slaps head to forehead*

PHP is not a replacement for CSS. It is a replacement for un-needed frames (allowing you to simply include other files), and javascript, which is too browser-dependant for it's own good. It can't do everything javascript can do (since javascript is clientside), but it can pretend it does.

Since I have broadband and an older computer with no better use, I just set up my own webserver @ home & installed debian, apache, and php on it. Instant PHP webserver.

[sparquay]

Well, I'm trying to teach myself PHP through Webmonkey's Tutorials and then after that i will probably head over to php.net.
Yes, the webpage I am working on is on a host that does support PHP and mySQl. I set up a phpBB 2.0 forum on it. And since then it has cause mine curiosity to soar to knew heights and even been known to cause sleepless nights at the thought of new possibilities and creativity with thus mentioned PHP.
Granted my personal site is on a free server, and I neglect it for the sake of this other website.
I know you can do quite a lot with CSS, but i don't think you can swap images with a link in CSS, can you?
I'm also wanting to have a caption for each picture. So that will add a bit of a challenge to the already given script. Well, I'm off to stuff my brain more.
By the way, no I don't have any experience in C++. I wish I had though. I have a feeling that would have made this so much easier. But all the stuff your mentioning sounds really cool and I hope to learn it eventually. To bad I'm already a college graduate and don't feel like going to school again to learn this stuff (too $$$). It's a consuming hobby.

[Pharao]

>I know you can do quite a lot with CSS, but i don't think you
>can swap images with a link in CSS, can you?
that is one of the things you should do with PHP

>I have a feeling that would have made this so much easier.
I coded with c++ for 3 years before I started using a little bit PHP.
I programmed a little (text-file-based) forum in 4-5 hours without trouble using php.net.
The syntax is nearly the same and the commands to...

>But all the stuff your mentioning sounds really cool and I
>hope to learn it eventually.
wait 1-2 weeks and you'll be able to handle it.
PHP is not really something big you have to master hardly.
it is just a little bit putting code-examples together

>To bad I'm already a college graduate and don't feel like
>going to school again to learn this stuff
In most schools here in Germany you also wouldn't learn it.
(except some technical-schools)
Teaching your self progamming is one of the things you can handle in your free time.

[sparquay]

well, thanks for all your help. After reading about PHP and hearing that there are already lots of scripts written for certain things....like this forum, and the forum I'm using, I decided to Google "php photo gallery" and found some cool programs that I'll use and adapt to fit my site more. But since learning a bit of PHP I'm able to understand a little bit more and I'm working on fixing a template to look like the rest of the site.   It's late now and I better head off to bed....err, I guess it's time for you to wake up Pharao...hehe early riser?

[Pharao]

sop... now I woke up... got some food and start learing math again...

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Check this link if you need someting else
http://php.resourceindex.com/