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Skyswordsman
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« on: April 29, 2007, 01:41:03 PM »
I read somewhere that Mac's can read but can NOT write to a NTFS drive. Is this true? I don't want my external 250 gig to be unusable.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 03:20:29 PM »
Yes. It's definitely true. Same with Linux. That's because for some reason (I don't know which one) it isn't easy to  implement support for NTFS in a Linux kernel.
The implementation allows you limited write, but that so unstable, that all Linux distributions and Mac OS X disables this.

FAT32 is supported, even as the Linux EXT3 filesystem. Only NTFS isn't. Quite annoying, I know.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 04:32:16 PM »
You can write to NTFS with MacFUSE.

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/how-to-read-and-write-ntfs-windows-partition-on-mac-os-x.html
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 05:52:58 AM »
You're absolutely right! Wow!
But the tutorial you're pointing to, seems to be a bit outdated. It talks about version 0.1.7 while they're already at 0.2.5, so I made a small one myself Wink

I'm now trying it out, till now: no problems Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 06:55:08 AM »
Quote from: auric on April 30, 2007, 05:52:58 AM
You're absolutely right! Wow!
But the tutorial you're pointing to, seems to be a bit outdated. It talks about version 0.1.7 while they're already at 0.2.5, so I made a small one myself Wink

I'm now trying it out, till now: no problems Smiley

Hehe, glad to help. Smiley

Nice tutorial.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 01:17:02 AM »
Awsome.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 03:40:04 AM »
Speaking of fat32 and ntfs I have a few questions ...
1) I have an external usb hard I used on my PC. I formated it in ntfs. Is there a way on mac I could format it into fat32?

2) This ties in to the first question. From what I understand the flaw of fat32 is that it has limited size. Meaning that only a 40gig hard can be fat32 (or only 40gig particion?) Anyways this doesnt make much sense to me. But still - better check, right? Is there such a limitation to fat32 format?

3) Well this kind of ties in to the whole hard disk dillema altho it does have to do with bootcamp as well.
If I have a 60 gig hard can I split it in 3 partitions (15/15/30) and format one into ntfs (for XP), the other into fat32 (for OS X) and have the third partition as fat32 where I could store all my documents, pics etc. And would that third partition be accessable by both systems?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2007, 05:43:18 AM »
1) Yes. /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility
2) Actually the limit of FAT32 is 32GB where 1KB = 1024B. Windows allows you to format larger drives (unwisely) with FAT32, but they're unstable and... well, FAT32 is an antiquated filesystem, and doesn't hold a candle to the other modern formats.
3) You could mount the NTFS partition using MacFUSE as above. (yes, reading and writing supported.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2007, 01:56:55 PM »
Quote from: zizdodrian on May 09, 2007, 05:43:18 AM
3) You could mount the NTFS partition using MacFUSE as above. (yes, reading and writing supported.)

Copy that!
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 03:04:13 AM »
Well I think you kind of missed the point of the question no.3.
I was wondering if all data on the third partition (without an OS) would be sharable between BOTH systems.

Example: I put my movies on the 3 partition. It can be formated into FAT32 or NTGS, doesnt matter. Could I access those movies while running XP as well as when running OS X?
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 04:08:20 AM »
Quote from: Gremlin on May 10, 2007, 03:04:13 AM
Well I think you kind of missed the point of the question no.3.
I was wondering if all data on the third partition (without an OS) would be sharable between BOTH systems.

Example: I put my movies on the 3 partition. It can be formated into FAT32 or NTGS, doesnt matter. Could I access those movies while running XP as well as when running OS X?

Quote from: zizdodrian on May 09, 2007, 05:43:18 AM
3) You could mount the NTFS partition using MacFUSE as above. (yes, reading and writing supported.)

Yes.
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2007, 03:02:59 AM »
Ok, sorry for kind of resurecting this thread buuuuuut ...

I followed the guide found at http://www.bermione.be/?q=comment/reply/53#comment-form and unfortunatly I still cant copy files to my NTFS.

Now I realise that I might have forgoten one small yet vital question ... does MacFuse and NTFS writing work on older macs? Meaning pre-intel processor, pre-boot camp macs.

Just to check if I messed up or if the op was messed up from the start.  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 04:16:47 AM »
Quote from: Gremlin on June 05, 2007, 03:02:59 AM
Ok, sorry for kind of resurecting this thread buuuuuut ...

I followed the guide found at http://www.bermione.be/?q=comment/reply/53#comment-form and unfortunatly I still cant copy files to my NTFS.

Now I realise that I might have forgoten one small yet vital question ... does MacFuse and NTFS writing work on older macs? Meaning pre-intel processor, pre-boot camp macs.

Just to check if I messed up or if the op was messed up from the start.  Grin

It works on PowerPC Macs. Smiley

Try following the earlier posted tutorial if that one doesn't work for you.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2007, 08:44:57 AM »
i had exactly the same question

i have a 250gb NTFS external harddrive. and i haven't been able to decide how to reformat it FAT32 HFPS, drifferent partitions. i will give this a try.

thanks a lot
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 04:10:24 PM »
I can indeed confirm that this works on older machines. I have a last-but-one generation Powerbook (so no bootcamps here) and it works great.

Note that encrypted or compressed disks won't work...

My disk is a 500GB LaCie, on which I've created a 150GB NTFS partition
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