Reverse Boot Camp?

[starkruzr]

OSX86 is an illegal hack. Even if it runs well, it is not legal or supported. If something goes wrong, don't blame Apple.

Well, it takes enough effort to get it to work, that only fairly IT literate people could ever have a hope of installing it (I've tried it, it is a tediously long winded process.) Apple doesn't really care, as long as the average Joe doesn't start installing it on a whitebox PC instead of buying a mac.

(This isn't conspiracy, its fiscal sensibility.)

You're right, of course.  Besides, the quality of Apple's hardware and design is such that I don't mind paying a small premium for it over Dell (and it really IS a small premium right after there's a refresh).

[Liquidmark]

OSX86 is an illegal hack. Even if it runs well, it is not legal or supported. If something goes wrong, don't blame Apple.

Well, it takes enough effort to get it to work, that only fairly IT literate people could ever have a hope of installing it (I've tried it, it is a tediously long winded process.) Apple doesn't really care, as long as the average Joe doesn't start installing it on a whitebox PC instead of buying a mac.

(This isn't conspiracy, its fiscal sensibility.)

You're right, of course.  Besides, the quality of Apple's hardware and design is such that I don't mind paying a small premium for it over Dell (and it really IS a small premium right after there's a refresh).

Don't forget about the shipping charges. ^^

[zizdodrian]

Don't forget about the shipping charges. ^^

At least in Australia, if you order it through your local reseller, they don't charge you for shipping.

[Liquidmark]

Sure, I can understand that.

[pengunassasin]

there is an answer:
SheepShaver on a PC.
SheepShaver is a PPC Emulator that lets you run MacOSX on your PC -- you need to get a at mac and rip the ROM out of it (easy enough where I work -- quad core Dual Xeon proccessor FinalCut pro machine ) but you also have to have an OsX install disk and enough drive space (duh) to handle the image. Basilisk lets you run it directly off an extra hd so fot those of us who have a mac os X harddrive around, you might want to simply rip that rom

this way _isnt_ illegal either (ttbomk)

[Liquidmark]

there is an answer:
SheepShaver on a PC.
SheepShaver is a PPC Emulator that lets you run MacOSX on your PC -- you need to get a at mac and rip the ROM out of it (easy enough where I work -- quad core Dual Xeon proccessor FinalCut pro machine ) but you also have to have an OsX install disk and enough drive space (duh) to handle the image. Basilisk lets you run it directly off an extra hd so fot those of us who have a mac os X harddrive around, you might want to simply rip that rom

this way _isnt_ illegal either (ttbomk)

Hunh?

http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/sheepshaver/

"SheepShaver runs MacOS 7.5.2 thru MacOS 9.0.4"

[Vega89]

I found this through my travels on the internet and figured this would be a good place to post it lol:
http://dailyapps.net/2007/10/hack-attack-install-leopard-on-your-pc-in-3-easy-steps/

It seems legit, but I dunno, haven't tried it yet

[zizdodrian]

Completely possible. Done it already with my legitimate image, but hackintoshes aren't terribly useful machines.

[Vega89]

Completely possible. Done it already with my legitimate image, but hackintoshes aren't terribly useful machines.

thats good to hear.  I wanna try it out when I build my next computer, figure why not lol.  Can you still connect to the internet with it or onto networks?

[Jinto]

Completely possible. Done it already with my legitimate image, but hackintoshes aren't terribly useful machines.

thats good to hear.  I wanna try it out when I build my next computer, figure why not lol.  Can you still connect to the internet with it or onto networks?

From my undereducated (at least on the matter of hackintoshes), I'd have to speculate that it's because of Apple optimizing their OS to fit the tech they put in their machines.

[joshuapohl]

Yeah, it could probably go to crap with any possible software update...

[Deetex]

EFI isnt nonstandard, just isnt common. Few companies wanted to impliment it because Microsoft wasnt wanting to add support to windows for it. Its been in linux for years.

Appendix to this, EFI is starting to make a rise, and WIndows Vista(all six of them) support it.

Back on topic though, I don't think a Boot-camp idea on an x86 system, AKA Dual-Boot, is possible... I've seen many blogs where a user has a hacked OSX and Windows(Vista) on two seperate harddrives, requiring one of either to be physically disconnected to use the other... but never one where dual-boot was acheived...

pity...

[zizdodrian]

Appendix to this, EFI is starting to make a rise, and WIndows Vista(all six of them) support it.

Actually, Windows Vista 32 has only supported EFI since SP1 - and AFAIK no SP1 disks are yet in circulation, so you'd have to install it through BIOS emulation, and then install SP1 on top.

Back on topic though, I don't think a Boot-camp idea on an x86 system, AKA Dual-Boot, is possible... I've seen many blogs where a user has a hacked OSX and Windows(Vista) on two seperate harddrives, requiring one of either to be physically disconnected to use the other... but never one where dual-boot was acheived...

It's most certainly possible, but not easy. Windows Vista is very difficult to boot from a GUID partitioned disk, and Mac OS X doesn't like booting from MBR disks. That said, with the EFI emulation hacks, it is possible to emulate a GUID partition scheme, and leave Windows Vista securely on the other MBR partition.

Frankly though, I can't stand Vista.

[Deetex]

Appendix to this, EFI is starting to make a rise, and WIndows Vista(all six of them) support it.

Actually, Windows Vista 32 has only supported EFI since SP1 - and AFAIK no SP1 disks are yet in circulation, so you'd have to install it through BIOS emulation, and then install SP1 on top.
*Here I said some more stuff*

Frankly though, I can't stand Vista.

Agreed on the Vista being dreadfull, I just destroyed my RAID and reinstalled XP on my Rig... all the happier...

Anyway, nope, Vista right of the bat supports EFI, a friend of mine installed Home Premium on his Macbook(What a waste) without the aid of Bootcamp or any emulator... just required him to format his mac's drive to NTFS...

[zizdodrian]

Actually, Windows Vista doesn't support EFI right off the bat.

The MacBook has BIOS emulation, meaning you could technically have booted a Windows XP CD straight up, too. BootCamp is just an easy wizard for partitioning the disk. The real power behind it is actually a firmware update which came out simultaneously with BootCamp, containing the BIOS emulation software for Apple EFI.