Muslim Children Gassed at Dayton Mosque After “Obsession” DVD Hits Ohio
*sighs*
I really don’t know what to say but wondering why isn’t this national news or why isn’t the media covering this.
[Edit] Fuck the political side of this story, this is about children. The hatred needs to stop.
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That’s despicable. I don’t care what religion someone belongs to, or what their political beliefs are. How on earth can anyone justify doing that to children? And why would that not be a huge piece? I mean, there are reasons, but they’re mainly really shitty, back-handed ones.
This was a terrible act and should be punished accordingly. Daily KOS is a propoganda rag and them attaching this to John McCain is just stupid. I’m not a John McCain supporter and I’m not american and even I can see this.
It indeed is a heinous act and whoever did it should face lifetime imprisonment and such for mass man slaughter.
however, I am annoyed at how the writer immediately correlated the incident to McCain (and perhaps even the video).
Having watched the Obsession video due to curiosity, there was no call to attack Muslims or even anything to increase internal paranoia. Instead, it was a call to increase education rather than vigilantism. Whoever did this (whether of not they actually watched this video as there’s no proof that they did) was operating on their own.
And people wonder why I don’t want to be here anymore…
Violent idiots with idiotic beliefs and supposed moral superiority are destroying the world…and that goes for all religions/cultures/countries and people everywhere.. Utterly despicable thing to have happened.
Just sent the link of the article to my “conservative” friend. He responded “not a fan of daily kos they are a big spin factory always hedging for emotion rather than fact” I started saying that it’s a emotional story, because people are being attacked because of this DVD that was given away.
He then told me that “I’ve seen the documentary… you need to watch it”
I responded with “I can’t talk to you anymore. I can’t speak to you any more without wanting to come to you(r) house and slapping the shit out of you. ”
What was said to these people when they grew up to turn them into raving fucktards?
Who was it that said that ignorance is bliss. So, by not watching the documentary, you can claim some kind of moral superiority over your “conservative” friend? Or is it, that by not watching the video, you can continue to believe propoganda without having to actually think about it?
I say, if your “conservative” frind was willing to read what you sent him, why aren’t you willing to hear both sides of the story?
The reason I was upset with my friend and wanted to slap the shit out of him was because he didn’t give a crap about the attack of innocent people. He wanted to debate or justify the attacks because those people were Muslim and he doesn’t care that a hate crime took place as long as it wasn’t against white Christians like him.
Why don’t I pass along his email so you two can get together, I’m sure there’s a cross soaked in gas that has your name on it… jackass.
Azumazon, you’ve made a jackass of yourself. You didn’t inform anyone of the other parts of the story, just assumed that Michael knew the rest. All he knew was what you originally posted and he responded accordingly.
I know you’re just going to blindly hate me without actually thinking it through, but I agree with Michael Talpas on this one. Where do you get off, thinking that you’re morally superior without even seeing the documentary when he has? Is it through your ignorance that you’re somehow morally superior?
Pathetic, this is the exact sort of politics I run into so commonly in real life. People are willing to claim a moral high ground without even willing to look at both sides of the story. Don’t get me wrong, I agree that this event is a fucking atrocity, but you dare to even consider yourself to somehow be superior because of your ignorance makes just as bad as the conservatives you assume to be bad.
amen. Even though i lean toward conservative views, i explore all the data and make an informed decision. Approaching life with only half the story is stupid. Thats like trying to pass a test without a pencil.
There’s one news source in Dayton covering it, but this is all I was able to find: http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/09/27/ddn092608evacweb.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=16 I have no idea why no major news media has picked this up ..
Mosque incident was silly stupid, prejudiced crap that people are prey to. We are better than this but we forget.
I note that the Daily Kos’ attempt to link the incident to the McCain Campaign without proof stems from the same sort of hatefulness as the mosque incident they are reporting on.
I’m so sorry. Ever since my synagogue was painted and received bomb threats, going there for the holidays is nerve wracking. Hatred and ignorance, on any group, is dispicable and I know how something like this can echo through the whole community. My thoughts and prayers go out to all celebrating Ramadan.
I hate the stupid, racist, prejudiced, backwards people in this fucking country. I hate it even more that this was the first I’ve heard about this story. So fucked up.
That’s so sad. =( I’ve always been a big supporter of the whole ‘love thy neighbor’ thing and stuff like this….it’s just horrible.
I noticed that The Daily Kos didn’t put up any of the actual information concerning the incident. Thank you, Anonymous, for posting the news article. After reading the article, I can see why the major news companies haven’t picked it up.
Compare: Chemical Irritant Empties Islamic Society of Greater Dayton’s Mosque.
To: Suicide bomber hits Iraqi Kurds: Around 60 people have been killed and up to 150 wounded in a suicide bombing at a police recruitment centre in the Kurdish city of Irbil in northern Iraq.
Which is more sensational? That’s the one the big news companies are going to report on.
Sure, you think a terrorist attack on American soil should be reported on. But there are terrorist attacks happening ALL the TIME. In fact, I’m sure there were at least 10 terrorist attacks by Americans against Americans on that day. For instance: In 2002, there were 257 gang related murders in Los Angeles, from January to August. That is a little more then 1 murder per day. These were not religion related, they were revenge, turf, and reputation related. The same motivations for most terrorist actions.
The reason this was not reported in the big chains is because no one died. I don’t like it, but I’m just telling the truth.
And I agree, it was a heinous act. When the guys who did it are caught, I hope they lock them up for a good, long time. I would rather they simply be killed, but that’s just me.
This makes me sick. These cowards are worth no sympathy, and deserve everything they get for commiting something such as that. Its the kind of thing the British National Front would do over in England too. If these fucktards want a fight, why don’t they do it in the open, so its easier to arrest them!
That is horrible. I live in Oregon and received that DVD yesterday in the paper. I haven’t watched it yet to know how off base it is. Funny thing, the paper it came in (Sunday Oregonian) did a front page article on the controversy of the DVD distribution!
How are we any different than the “terrorists” if Americans perpetrate this type of crime?
“How are we any different than the “terrorists” if Americans perpetrate this type of crime?”
Exactly my feelings.
How can we fight something when we do it too?
Fucking hypocrites.
That is idiotic. We must fight it, no matter where it occurs. Here, or overseas.
Just because we do something too, we don’t just throw up our hands in defeat and stop fighting it. Guess what: If you do that, the terrorists (both foreign and domestic) do, in fact, win.
Honestly, I don’t think there is a winner, there is only loss. I don’t like the idea of thinking of it as a war, because a war is a lose/lose situation with the illusion of a positive outcome and winner.
Outrageous. Simply outrageous.
I apologize for my earlier post.
It was rude, and trolling post. The fact that I didn’t mean it as such does not change its nature.
Once again. I apologize to our hosts and promise to be a better guest by thinking twice on whether to post at all.
This is just outlandish!! Not just on the level of ignorance and disrespect that it takes to gas a mosque during a holy period of time, but also on the fact that this is not being reported at least nationwide. I think that each and every reader of this website should send the link of the Dayton newspaper that covered it to whoever is in there contacts list! Seriously people… this is the Bush Doctrine of attack before we’re attacked happening right here in our own backyard, so to speak. Video or no video, this type of stuff happens all the time, and it needs to stop. As for the remark from mr Talpas, yes we must fight it(not for our own benefit, but other’s), but we need to get information out to these ignorant and self-righteous people that believe EVERY person not like them is a threat to stop this insane violence. How can you stop terrorism when you are breeding hate towards this country in such young, impressionable minds? Those children that were in that mosque won’t forget this incident for years, if ever. The only way to promote peace abroad, is to be, at least, mostly peaceful at home.
It is a horrible story indeed. It probably would’ve made national headlines, but the newsrooms are rather preoccupied right now covering all the chicken littles who are running around screaming that the sky is falling.
This is sickening, how did I NOT hear about this when it happened. I did a quick search on CNN.com for “Muslim Children Gassed.” CNN has no articles on it, but on the side it has a web search results, there are a decent number there, but none from places I’ve heard of before.
Also, if you search “Muslim Children Gas”, Hawkster’s Twitter comes up second on the list. Just a little thing to mention.
Hawk, before I read your comic, I am actually upset to say I was a little concerned about Muslim communities in America. That was mostly through my youth and ignorance. It was actually a little before I began reading Applegeeks that I had details about the Muslim religion explained to me much better, and just reading bits of “anti-anti-muslim” in your comics just adds to it.
I’m searching for places I can e-mail it to in hopes that I will get noticed by the mainstream media. The light of Truth needs to shine through these hurricanes of lies.
I’m amazed that this happened practically IN MY BACKYARD, and I didn’t hear ANYTHING about it at all this weekend. I work for a school district in this area where there is an incredible ethnic and ideological blend of students–I’m encouraged seeing kids from all sorts of backgrounds learning and playing together…then I see the “adults” doing this…I’m speechless in disgust at the people who did this.
I find it interesting that both this article, and the massive blackout that lasted almost an entire week for much of the Cincinnati area didn’t make it into much of the mainstream news…what’s up with the media in this country (it’s a rhetorical question folks…I know for the most part it’s playing to corporate interests)?
I’m just appalled that people can do this. I’ve been spreading the word online since I saw this. We can’t let this go unnoticed. I have friends who are overseas fighting this very kind of injustice. Freedom is not free, and assholes like that are the reason we fight for it. ALL men are created equal. Muslims, whites, blacks… Don’t let blood be shed in vain, people! You have your freedom, now give them theirs!
This is appalling. I can’t believe things like this can go on in our country and it doesn’t make a single headline. I’m tired of this racist shit. When will these bigots stop?
I agree with Hawk. Fuck the Politics, fuck the hate.
And for Orchish and those who say “How can we fight terrorists when we do it?”
That’s kind of a silly question. The people fighting the terror aren’t the ones doing these things. It’s not every Muslim that’s a terrorists, and it’s not every Muslim that we are fighting.
I also agree that we need to focus more on the report and prosecution of Domestic Terror, and terrorist cells.
This is a sad sad story, and I’m glad to hear that no one was killed!
I am spreading this story around. Every website I go to. This has to be known.
Holy fucking shit. One more sad thing about this tragic event, I live in Dayton, and this is the first I’m hearing about this.
Read Inventing Reality: The Politics of News Media by Michael Parenti. You’ll know why it’s not up in the news.
I’m from the Dayton area… hate to say it, but there are a lot of people around who would do something like this. Even people who have experienced racial bias I’ve heard saying things of a mindset with Obsession. I feel that the woman who the letter writer spoke to had a very good idea of the way the world works, the whole neither heaven nor hell thing.
It’s sad to see the day when our children can’t even go to the mosque during Ramadan anymore.
I agree. There’s too much unnecessary hate breeding more hate.
We aren’t hearing about this up in Canada (and apparently, Americans aren’t either). Thanks for spreading the word Hawk.
This are the kind of things that makes me boil in anger; it makes me think how mindless people can be, not to think in what they are doing.
I start remembering so many incidents like this that end in tragedy, it just makes me want to cry.
This is NOT something I want to read about from Home. That really sickens me to hear about that. No reasonable person would ever do such a thing.
I just hope those idiots don’t get hurt (much) if they pass out of Edwin C. Moses Blvd. Inner City Dayton is pretty rough. (I survived 3 months as a sub teacher).
THis is terrible. Terrorism is wrong, but to target Children? That is beyond understanding. I’m a Christian Youth Pastor, and I am praying for all the Families involved in this. God is a God of love, why must hate dominate our world?
Who does that? What the hell is wrong with them? My opinion is that if people want to act like terrorists, even in “fake” ways like this (simply by not taking lives they think they are better but that is a delusion) then we should treat them as terrorists, since, by definition, that was an act of terrorism. I looked up the movie that was mentioned, and that thing goes way out of the world of realism as well, the connection between the Nazi’s and the Radical Islamists is a ridiculous leap, aside from their hatreds of westerners there are no similarities, they don’t even fight the same(that is an example don’t take it as all of my opinion).
9/11 was a failure in moral values, a critical failure, in New York. 9/26 was also a critical failure in moral values, only this time it is in Dayton, Ohio. They should be treated the same, and hunted just as vigorously, hopefully with more immediate success in Dayton. Especially given that it is in a significantly smaller area.
oh my lord… you’re actually comparing people who did this to people who murder people? i’ll give you a scenario. so, there’s these people, living peacefully in a big compound-type area, where they don’t bug anyone and nobody bugs them. until… one night, someone who dislikes their religion calls the cops saying she’s a little girl, and that her and other little girls are being raped. so the government comes in, and takes away over 400 children. separates them from their parents, the whole shabang. oh, wait, this happened! what were you thinking when that happened? “serves those people right”, correct? well, you…. sorry, i can’t continue without falling into name-calling and swearing. it’s just pathetic that you people act indignant when it’s PC to do so, and self-righteous when things happen to non-PC people….
I live in Toledo, and the newspaper here also released it, and we held a peace rally at the mosque, but I have heard nothing of a reply, and due to not having a TV, heard nothing of this being so widespread. I’m just happy nothing of the sort happened here; although, it really is a shame that people’s eyes are so closed to think that hurting children and others is exceptable behavior for anyone. I am amazed that this is not plastered all over every news station. This is something that people need to know. poison a little old white lady in Florida, and we’ll know about it, but something happens a few hours away, and you hear nothing. …It’s amazing in a very depressing way.
Anyone else now reminded of the band Goldfinger’s “Open you Eyes?”
We need to stop using the term “terrorism” for this kind of awful situation. Terrorism, however horrible, implies a greater political cause - the desire to cause political change through the use of scare tactics, effectively. To describe this as terrorism connotates that the actions of the people responsible has legitimacy. To me, it seems better to call it what it is: a despicable racially motivated act of violence against people practicing their faith in peace.
The definition of terrorism is:
The use of or threat of violence to achieve a social or political goal.
Therefore hate-crimes are technically terrorism.
This act is more terrorist in intention because a single individual was not isolated, it was a blind attack against people on the basis of their religion.
I guess Crystal Night wasn’t a terrorist act either in your opinion.
Wow.
When you stare out your window and think of all the hatred in this world.. all the things you do understand which overwhelms you so much that the infinite universe seems simplistic.. and then realize that you never even heard about THIS until now.. and you wonder.. what else am I missing.. what else is going on, what other horrible crimes go unpunished..
Imagine there’s no countries.. it isn’t hard to do.. nothing to kill or die for.. and no religion too..
I’m a weak person, alone.. there’s not much I can do to end the hate. But.. regardless of what my two arms can and can’t do.. my soul dreams, and I will always be a dreamer.
Reading these comments.. I know I’m not the only one.
Metta bhavana, everyone.
Wow. If that was intended to target children specifically, i say whoever did it should catch a bullet.
I don’t agree with racism either, but when you target CHILDREN specifically, you are a special kind of evil.
Terrible, absolutely terrible. And it’s even worse that the site tries to peg John McCain as the one to blame for it. This is exactly why I try to force myself into ignorance to world events. Because whenever I try to learn more about our world, I always run into a wall better known as politics.
What a fucking wonderful world we live in, where instead of protesting against a crime against innocent children, we’re more concerned with how we can use a news event to defame a political candidate.
well how about that. this is already being portrayed as the result of a “republican scare tactic”. not that i don’t feel for these people, but i read one of the quotes from that “and I wonder what kind of country is this where people have to fear attending their place of worship?” well, maybe you should try visiting the middle-east, and check out one of the christian churches. i’m sure you’ll just be able to walk around and find one…. OH WAIT, NEVERMIND, CHRISTIANS GET KILLED FOR PRACTICING THEIR FAITH OPENLY. if you’re gonna get outraged at someone tear-gassing a mosque, how about also getting outraged about people getting BURNED ALIVE in churches? and also, “This, apparently, is what the scare tactic political campaigning of John McCain’s supporters has led to — Americans perpetrating a terrorist attack against innocent children on American soil.”??!!?!?! what the hell, do people really want to believe that everyone who disagrees with them are ignorant hatemongers? a few nut-jobs do this, and now you’re blaming republicans and (some of you) christians.
oh, and “stop the hate”? this from people who say “i wanna gut and kill those people!” does that sound like something a HATEFUL person would say, or a NON hateful person.
oh, also, islam isn’t a RACE, it’s a RELIGION. so it’s not RACIST when something like this happens.
and believe me, i very much despise that these things happen, i just don’t feel as much pity as i should when the people who are gassed belong to a religion that preaches that christians and jews should die.
when one of you shows a speck of anger over the dead christian families that lived in the middle-east, i’ll respect you as someone who cares about people. if you don’t, well you’re just a hippocryte. and a bad one at that.
Oh dear.
The difference is that one of them is happening in YOUR country, right around you, and the other isn’t.
Christianity preaches almost the exact same thing. Don’t feel pity for “that preaches that christians and jews should die.”? You’re an idiot mate. You only want people to care about YOUR people(and before you come back saying I’m a bible basher, I’m a Christian and attended a Christian school and church regularly for 6 years) and I can tell you that the Bible preaches about caring for ALL people, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN.
You’re blatant disregard for human life is amazingly unchristian, to the point of being disgraceful. I would have thought people like Hawk would have shown you that Islam is anything but a hate religion.
I do get angry when Christians are killed overseas. But I get even angrier when people in my own country attempt to gas children in the name of religion. If you actually read the Bible instead of just preaching it you’d realise it says God loves ALL children, so this act is nothing short of evil.
I realise you don’t condone it, but in my eyes you refusal to damn it makes you just as bad as them.
I just hope you realise that your hatred is wrongly placed and until such hatred is cleared out of you and people like you, the world will never have peace.
you get angrier when people in blah blah blah. so, you’re saying that because it’s happening closer, it’s worse, even though nobody died here, and this is one isolated incident, while on the other hand murder of christians goes on daily?
there are PLENTY of people who SAY they are christians, but when it comes down to it their faith is as hollow as a liberals’ heart. if YOU read the bible you’d know that in God’s eyes, ALL are sinners, and therefore short of His mercy. but, through His Son, we are able to have salvation. God loves us all, but if we turn from Him, he does not extend overmuch mercy.
and did you think i didn’t condemn it? i think i made it clear that i did… i have no hatred, by the way, so you can stop trying to make yourself feel superior to me. you know nothing of me, or of my feelings, and you assume that i’m full of hate, simply because i don’t express hate towards people that YOU despise. if i did say that i hated those people, i’m betting you wouldn’t say anything about my hatred being bad.
oh, wait, you said wrongly placed. so it’s OK to hate people who do bad things. hmm, now that i think of it, we ALL do bad things. well, i guess we all better hate each other then!
I tried to read all of the above comments thoroughly, but the myopic dribble conveyed in some had me scanning further content. I read someone mention that none of the children involved in this deplorable act of religious barbarism were killed, but can anyone tell me the extent of the injuries sustained, and the chemical agents used? Also, to all those out there who are members of the Islam religion, and to those who are members of the various races that popular culture associates with said religion; I am so sorry that you have come under an unjustifiable attack due to the actions of a small portion of the people whom happen to inhabit a country near you, or proclaim membership in the religion you practice. If only people were able to use logic and remember that just as the members of the Klan do not accurately represent the majority of Christians, nor white culture, Al Queda’s actions should not reflect upon others, especially children.
I want to say how disgusted I am. I respect your faith as much as I respect anyone else’s. (Especially that you can fast all day every day during Ramadan..) It’s a terrible thing that happened, and more people need to take notice of it. The key phrase of that diarist’s post was this–”Americans perpetrating a terrorist attack against innocent children on American soil.” That’s something that needs to stick in peoples’ minds at how wrong this is. And I agree with what he told his fearful friends–That is not what America is.
To end on a lighter note, I’ll leave a quote from Christopher Titus to make you smile. “I’m whitey, and I apologize.”
Hey, avid fan, reader, and yes, republican christian. I read the article and couldn’t help but notice the comments. The majority are blaming this on the religious right. The vast majority of us have no animosity toward muslims. My girlfriend of three years is a muslim. What i’m trying to say is that blaming christians and republicans for this travesty is a lot like blaming muslims for the terrorists attacks around the globe. People are cowards and a-holes, and its sick. Profiling doesn’t make it any better, it just accelerates the problem. Btw, i have no idea why this isn’t getting national news, it seems right up the leftist medias alley. In closing, may the child hurting bastards burn forever in whatever afterlife they believe in, and may this further unite us in the fight against terror at home and abroad.
This is sick. Those poor babies, my prayers go out to all the families of that mosque. I cannot believe the cruelty of people in this world. I guess that’s why I’m so grateful for God’s perfect love and God’s perfect justice. They may escape in our imperfect world, but they can’t escape the Almighty. I had my husband email this to a national reporter, maybe he’ll put this up. He likes taking these causes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc
just in case if you hadn’t seen the movie and you’re curious.
This is horrible. I’ve sent an email to Keith Olbermann of MSNBC’s Countdown to see if he knows why this hasn’t been more addressed. I don’t understand why it’s not getting more play in the news. Sadly, though, I’m not too surprised, though. There have been many acts of religious and racial persecution through out America’s history that are little more than footnotes in history books if they’re lucky enough to make it there at all. I’m not Muslim, I’m LDS, and all I need do is look at why our entire faith packed up and moved to the Salt Lake Valley.
Despite all that, as a general whole, I believe that the average citizen of these United States should be outraged and horrified by this act, no matter their faith, creed, persuasion or associations. If you’re looking this blog over and thinking “What’s the big deal?”, then perhaps you should take a few steps back, and take a few moments to review why you don’t think it’s a big deal.
dude, a fellow saint! I agree completely.
As an American Muslim I have to admit that I’m not surprised at the attack nor the lack of news reporting.
The news was fairly quiet when a woman was shot to death in San Francisco in front of her children for wearing hijab.
The news was silent when a woman in Chicago was beaten and had her hijab ripped off at McDonalds and yet her husband was arrested for fending the thugs off.
The news was silent when two Arab-Americans were kicked out of a restaurant because they were speaking in Arabic on the cell phones (coordinating family to meet them there for dinner) and the restaurant perceived them as a threat to the other diners.
There was very little news at all about pigs being chased into Mosques, vandalism at over 1,000 Mosques across the country and isolated incidents of violence and human rights violations over the last seven years.
Over the last seven years the number of human rights violations against Muslims by employers has quadrupled and yet the news remains quiet.
Am I surprised that a chemical gas was dumped into a Mosque after a hate mongering DVD has been circulating the nation?
No.
Am I sad that I have to wonder whether or not America is a safe place to raise my children? You bet I am.
It angers me that my family has been in the USA for more than three centuries and I am worried about bringing my wife there and raising children.
It angers me that my mother and father who have served in Vietnam and both wars in the Persian Gulf have retired from service only to be ridiculed and harassed because of their religion.
It angers me that hate mongering politics can cause people to forget lessons that were fought so hard to teach only 40+ years ago.
After 9/11 I asked “Who Hijacked my Religion?”
Now I ask “Who Hijacked my Nation?”
Someone steer her back on course please…